About this awful attack in Paris. Horrible. Horrible for these ISIS/ISIL people to decide to commit mass murder in the name of their god. They need to be caught and punished. We all know that. But how is bombing the people of Syria going to do that? Do the people of Syria want ISIS in charge? I didn’t think that was the case. If so, wouldn’t killing thousands of innocent people be just as wrong? Or even more wrong, in my opinion.
I don’t understand that there are apparently rules to war. Apparently it’s ok to wipe out one group to get at another. It’s illegal to take out the head of a country. Stupid, but there it is. I know it really doesn’t apply to zealot groups like Al Queda and ISIL. Their leader doesn’t count as the leader of a country. Yet we sent in a specialized team after Osama Bin Laden. They were successful. Why can’t we simply eliminate these zealots? Shouldn’t our vast system of intelligence be able to find these people?
Probably not. The US is too busy spying on all the innocent people in the US, searching for people who do a google search for ‘pressure cooker’ or similarly [non] threatening items.
The Reagan Administration, with their Iran/Contra affair, helped put Al Queda in power. According to the linked article, Iran is still funding Al Queda. (http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/02/22/iran-hezbollah-reportedly-backing-al-qaeda-attacks-against-us-interests-in-the-middle-east/#)
During the long-running Iran-Iraq war, the US had defended Iraq, providing troops, weapons and training. Only to bomb them years later. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War#U.S._involvement)
Bush I put on a show with a ‘bomb the hell out of ’em’ attitude, which everyone said was a ‘good start’ to the problem but he didn’t take it far enough. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War#Run-up_to_the_war)
Bush II brought us to an illegal war that we’ve been fighting for 14 years! After 14 years, isn’t it clear to anyone else that our current system of warfare is a waste of time, money, resources, and most of all, people.
And that’s just the last 30 years or so. Haven’t we figured out this idea of bombing works, but not very well.
They say “well, we have to bomb the people of Syria because that’s where the bad guys are.” We’re the ‘good guys’, here to save the people of Syria– by bombing them? Well, sure, if we kill everyone in Syria we may catch the people behind ISIS. But our military loves to play with their million dollar jets, and tanks. They want war, it’s what they do. The military is by it’s very nature, a killing machine. How does killing bring peace? Shouldn’t we have a Peace Department instead of a War Department?
What about all the good guys? All the collateral damage. Bridges, roads, homes and farms destroyed. What about the women, children, old men that are killed in these assaults? I’m lead to believe there is no other way. Don’t innocent lives of Syrians matter as much as the lives of the people killed in France?
If We are supposed to be the good guys, shouldn’t we be able to come up with a better way? Ideally the elimination of organized religion would be my choice. Of course, you can’t do that. Deny someone their religion, and the wars just continue.
So, people will want their religion. Some people obviously need their religion. Yet, when religion goes wrong, like it does in Islam as well as Christianity, we just nod and say, well that’s the way it goes. “Those” people aren’t as good as “my” people. They are not as important as I am.
There are plenty of people think religions other than Christianity are wrong. Do I have to mention the Jews here? Sure, ISIS isn’t a bunch of innocent German Jews, they are vicious, horrible, immoral people. Intent on doing what they believe is right.
This is and has been a war of religion. As it has been since the beginning of religion. The Christians have fought the Muslims for thousands of years. There seems there is nothing to be done about it. Can we intercede, take these deluded individuals out of the equation? Why should 1000s of people die? We need good intelligence on where these people are, how they operate. Obviously, our intelligence is pretty lousy. Too many hands in the pot, diluting our resources, taking the long way out.
There is no end to war, because so much of it is caused by a few deluded religious zealots have decided the rest of the world is wrong, and that it is up to them to change their world more to their liking.
I don’t mean to disparage people’s religions. Certainly, religion in and of itself is a good thing. Brings people comfort to believe there is a power bigger than they. Gives people a sense of security. Churches and synagogues are gathering places for people of like mind. A community. I understand that, but the facts are there folks. Just open up your mind and look.
Instead of killing innocent people, isn’t there some way to target only the terrorists. Individually, if necessary. We have highly trained snipers. Once one of the terrorists is identified, I should think it wouldn’t be difficult to dismantle ISIS by simply eliminating those responsible? What if we don’t get them all? We won’t.
There will always be religions. Therefore there will always be zealots, there will always be war. Unless people want to change. Sadly, it is very apparent that most people would not like to change.
We’re all grown ups, we all have the ability to speak. Is there no way to speak to zealots? A way to stop them before they start killing? I truly believe there is something, some way. I just don’t know what it is. To me it’s a simple matter, but it has been pointed out to me many times that it isn’t simple. I still think governments create chaos and confusion because they still operate with a First Century idea about winning a war. We need 21st Century thinking.